{"id":629177,"date":"2021-10-25T06:48:00","date_gmt":"2021-10-25T04:48:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.milk-food.de\/?p=629177"},"modified":"2026-06-09T09:47:26","modified_gmt":"2026-06-09T07:47:26","slug":"food-lab-meets-markus-shimizu","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.milk-food.de\/en\/blog\/2021\/10\/25\/food-lab-meets-markus-shimizu\/","title":{"rendered":"Markus Shimizu x MILK."},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h1 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-wenn-man-fermentiert-lernt-man-die-zutaten-neu-kennen\"><meta charset=\"utf-8\"\/>&#8220;When you ferment, you get to know the ingredients anew&#8221;<\/h1>\n\n<p class=\"has-larger-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Markus Shimizu, <a href=\"https:\/\/mimiferments.com\/\">founder<\/a> of mimi ferments, is one of Germany&#8217;s best-known fermentista. We talked to him about the challenges of selling unknown products and why he no longer follows a vegan diet. <\/p>\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignfull size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" src=\"https:\/\/www.milk-food.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/MILK-FoodLab-Meets-MarkusShimizu-4-1920x1080.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-610388\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.milk-food.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/MILK-FoodLab-Meets-MarkusShimizu-4-1920x1080.jpg 1920w, https:\/\/www.milk-food.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/MILK-FoodLab-Meets-MarkusShimizu-4-960x540.jpg 960w, https:\/\/www.milk-food.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/MILK-FoodLab-Meets-MarkusShimizu-4-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.milk-food.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/MILK-FoodLab-Meets-MarkusShimizu-4-1536x864.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.milk-food.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/MILK-FoodLab-Meets-MarkusShimizu-4-2048x1152.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/www.milk-food.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/MILK-FoodLab-Meets-MarkusShimizu-4-480x270.jpg 480w, https:\/\/www.milk-food.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/MILK-FoodLab-Meets-MarkusShimizu-4-200x113.jpg 200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Just a small selection of the many products and experiments from the mimi ferments fermentation chamber<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><meta charset=\"utf-8\"\/>What do fish sauce and soy sauce have in common? Both are first-class fermented umami boosters and are thousands of years old in origin. While <a href=\"https:\/\/de.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Aspergillus_flavus_var._oryzae\">koji<\/a> is used to start the fermentation process in soy sauce, fish sauces &#8211; or garums (the generic term) &#8211; only use salt to start an enzymatic process that breaks down the fish protein and produces highly aromatic sauces. And what does our interview partner Markus Shimizu have in common with <a href=\"https:\/\/en.gastromasa.com\/noma-fits-in-a-jar-redzepis-garum-sauce-is-all-over-the-world\/\">Ren\u00e9 Redzepi<\/a>, head of the best restaurant in the world at the moment? Both believe in the incredible potency and diversity of garums, which can be produced from all kinds of sources. Used sensibly, the technology is very sustainable and is moving towards zero waste, which is exactly what more and more consumers are demanding.     <\/p>\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">&#8220;Being vegan in the early 90s was pretty horrible.&#8221;<\/h2>\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignright size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1920\" src=\"https:\/\/www.milk-food.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/MILK-FoodLab-Meets-MarkusShimizu-2-1920x1920.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-610392\" style=\"width:480px;height:480px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.milk-food.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/MILK-FoodLab-Meets-MarkusShimizu-2-1920x1920.jpg 1920w, https:\/\/www.milk-food.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/MILK-FoodLab-Meets-MarkusShimizu-2-960x960.jpg 960w, https:\/\/www.milk-food.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/MILK-FoodLab-Meets-MarkusShimizu-2-480x480.jpg 480w, https:\/\/www.milk-food.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/MILK-FoodLab-Meets-MarkusShimizu-2-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.milk-food.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/MILK-FoodLab-Meets-MarkusShimizu-2-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.milk-food.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/MILK-FoodLab-Meets-MarkusShimizu-2-2048x2048.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/www.milk-food.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/MILK-FoodLab-Meets-MarkusShimizu-2-200x200.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.milk-food.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/MILK-FoodLab-Meets-MarkusShimizu-2-1000x1000.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/www.milk-food.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/MILK-FoodLab-Meets-MarkusShimizu-2-720x720.jpg 720w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Day 1 of soy sauce production: &#8220;Inoculation&#8221; with koji<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Markus Shimizu started fermentation in 2004 to find new sources of protein, as he was still vegan at the time. He ate a vegan diet for almost 25 years, but now eats everything again. One remnant from this time is his love of fresh tempeh. &#8220;It tastes incredibly good when it&#8217;s freshly homemade and also very different to when you buy it from the organic market.&#8221; However, he believes that freshness is the key reason why the product has not yet made its big breakthrough in this country. &#8220;Ideally, supermarkets want to have products on their shelves that have a long shelf life and preferably don&#8217;t need to be refrigerated&#8221;. In other words, exactly the opposite of what would characterize good tempeh.<br\/>Nevertheless, Shimizu sees tempeh as a nice playground because you can not only add legumes, but also nuts. This allows for a wide range of flavors. Could it be a coincidence that Sandor Katz, whom Shimizu describes as his fermentista role model, has an <em>ode to tempeh<\/em>in his book &#8220;The Art of Fermentation&#8221;?        <\/p>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">At mimi ferments, he tries &#8220;to work traditionally wherever possible and where it makes sense, especially when it comes to techniques&#8221;. One eye always looks to his native Japan, where many of the techniques come from and where he also orients his taste. Even though he lives in Berlin, Shimizu thinks less about the German palate than the Japanese when creating new ferments. &#8220;I want Japanese people to like it too.&#8221;   <\/p>\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">&#8220;Sweet potato miso tastes like Capri sun&#8221;<\/h3>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><meta charset=\"utf-8\"\/>However, this does not mean that it does not work very regionally: Most of its basic products, such as barley, soybeans and beet, come from controlled organic cultivation in Germany. The team also communicates this in the newsletter, in which new products are presented and events are announced. But that is one of the hardest aspects of the job as a fermentista. <em>Amazake<\/em>, <em>sagohachi<\/em> or <em>shiro tamari<\/em> mean nothing to most people at first. That&#8217;s why personal, direct contact with customers in the store in Berlin Moabit is important to Shimizu. Even if the product is explained, many people discover new flavors when they try the products from mimi ferments, even if they often contain ingredients they are familiar with. For Shimizu, this is part of the appeal of his work, as he says: &#8220;When you ferment, you get to know the ingredients in a new way&#8221;. For example, sweet potato miso tastes &#8211; to him &#8211; like Capri sun.      <\/p>\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" src=\"https:\/\/www.milk-food.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/MILK-FoodLab-Meets-MarkusShimizu-3-1920x1080.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-610394\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.milk-food.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/MILK-FoodLab-Meets-MarkusShimizu-3-1920x1080.jpg 1920w, https:\/\/www.milk-food.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/MILK-FoodLab-Meets-MarkusShimizu-3-960x540.jpg 960w, https:\/\/www.milk-food.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/MILK-FoodLab-Meets-MarkusShimizu-3-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.milk-food.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/MILK-FoodLab-Meets-MarkusShimizu-3-1536x864.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.milk-food.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/MILK-FoodLab-Meets-MarkusShimizu-3-2048x1152.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/www.milk-food.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/MILK-FoodLab-Meets-MarkusShimizu-3-480x270.jpg 480w, https:\/\/www.milk-food.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/MILK-FoodLab-Meets-MarkusShimizu-3-200x113.jpg 200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">3x pork belly: 1x with tempeh cultures and 2x with koji &#8220;well-molded&#8221;<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-mit-koji-von-innen-und-aussen-schon\">Beautiful inside and out with Koji<\/h3>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We <a href=\"https:\/\/www.milk-food.de\/2021\/gemueseschinken\/\">have already<\/a> worked with products from mimi ferments <a href=\"https:\/\/www.milk-food.de\/2021\/team-koji\/\">several<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.milk-food.de\/2021\/team-koji\/\">times<\/a> in the Food Lab. The two world-class Berlin restaurants <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theworlds50best.com\/the-list\/41-50\/Nobelhart-and-Schmutzig.html\">Nobelhart &amp; Schmutzig<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/tim-raue.com\/\">Tim Raue<\/a> are certainly better known customers of mimi ferments. However, this is more of a collaboration, as the chefs and Shmizu inspire each other.  <\/p>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Around 20% of the approaches are experiments. He has even gone so far as to make soaps that have been well received. According to the motto &#8220;beautiful inside and out with koji&#8221;, he sees great potential for koji cosmetics. Actually, the only limiting factor for expanding the product range is time. There is still a lot to try, for example another soy sauce <a href=\"https:\/\/sail-aged.de\/\">that matures on the high seas<\/a>.    <\/p>\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Personal recommendation from the author: The <a href=\"https:\/\/mimiferments.com\/collections\/miso\/products\/shiro-miso\">Shiro Miso<\/a> and the <a href=\"https:\/\/mimiferments.com\/products\/amazake-200\">Amazake<\/a>, to order in the mimi ferments <a href=\"https:\/\/mimiferments.com\/collections\/all\">online store<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n    <aside id=\"\"\n           class=\"contact contact--has-image\">\n\t\t            <div class=\"contact__title\">Are you interested in our Food Lab? 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